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Fishing with Johnny Johnson – Crappie Fishing with Art Chamberlin


There we go there we go
there we go there we go! [Johnny cackling] Oh, that’s a
bass, folks! -Is it? -That’s a bass, that
ain’t no crappie, son! What’s going on here? -You are a bass fisherman. -Well, that’s true. You put a dropshot
in my hand, you can almost guarantee- [chuckle] you can almost
guarantee, Art, that… -He’s not a giant,
but he’s a keeper. -On Arts’ rig. I gotta be careful
with this little dude. That little hook.. I don’t
know how well he’s got it. Not very good. He got- he got the
minnow, that’s for sure. -Mmm-Hmm. -Alright, I gotcha! Lookee there! -Nice. -It’s not a crappie,
but it’s a bass. -It’s not. -That’s- that’s
what you get though, when you fish the same
areas that bass like to hang out. -Well yeah, in
this type of stuff, you’ll catch
bass, crappie, bluegill.. yellow bass. And catfish. -How awesome is that? -Just slip that
dropshot- or that uh,… -How awesome is that? Folks, today we’re
at Roosevelt Lake. And I cannot believe I’ve
got one of my favorite guys ever, growing up,
I loved him to death, Art Chamberlin. The ‘crappie guide’. The guy that- that I
mean.. I hate to tell you this, and I don’t want
to just, you know, make your head
swell too much, but you know that your
legend in Arizona. I gotta let you know that. -Well, I got Matt
Shura for a PR guy. -That’s- that’s
what you got! You got Matt
Shura for PR guy. Art’s been around this-
you’ve guided on this lake here at Roosevelt,
for how long? How many years? -31 years.
-31 years. -And fished it 40. -Yeah, we came out
here to crappie fish. And uh, of
course, you know, if you’re crappie
fishing in the area, sometimes where we’re
fishing you’re gonna catch some bass, right? -Absolutely. -So that was our
first fish of the day, but we’re getting
started out here. Hopefully we catch
some crappie today. But Art, I’m gonna tell
you something.. He’s done a lot of tournaments. When I was a kid, I
remember him being in the tournaments, uh, I grew
up watching you, you know? And and and I always
hear about the ‘crappie fishing’, ‘crappie
fishing..’ And even at my restaurant,
wherever I go, ‘How’s art doing? How’s are doing?’ Everybody’s always
asking “How’s art doing?” So Art, how are you doing? -I’m doing great. -Yeah? You been doing good? You’re still doing
some seminar work? -I’m doing some seminars. Be at the Sports
Expo next spring, and Bass Pro Shop uh, I
think the first week of December. You’ll have to
check online but uh, we’re talking about doing
one the first week of December, and doing one
covering crappie and having possibly a Game and
Fish there to talk about the habitats
we’re fishing. -Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And that’s what
we’re doing today. You know, they dropped
a lot of habitat in uh, Roosevelt Lake. And the crappie are just
getting stacked up along- along with it. Art has done his
homework now, folks. Now let me tell you
something: he pulls out the little black book;
he’s got everythingmarked; he knows
exactly what he’s doing;
he does homework.And probably more so
than- than me or Matt do.
I’m telling you,
you got it down! -Well, I’m retired! -Oh that’s what it
is.. He’s retired now! But I’ve learnt more
in the half hour just bringing him out, before
we even started fishing, than I have in years
about crappie fishing. I never even knew
it was like this. And hopefully we get
something going today. Caught a bass
right off the bat, but it- get something
started- but I’m looking forward to seeing some-
what’d you call it.. ‘Sac-a-lait’? -Sac-a-lait. I just want to mention
real quick though: these habitats- and I’ve found
18 of the 20 of them, there’s two of them that
don’t match up with the coordinates- but I want to
give a big shout out uh, Rich and Sue Pratt are
good friends of mine. And Rich helped me
program these in, to where I can go
right to them.. -Awesome awesome. -And uh, start fishing. -Well, that’s awesome. We’re gonna see if we can
catch some fish off of them, so stick around. Uh, you need to hook
me up another minnow. I can’t believe I’m- this
is the first time I’ve ever fished with live
bait since I was a kid. And we’re throwing
little jigs, but we’re also
throwing minnows, too, and we’ll talk about that
here in just a second. Stay tuned. -I can get you one, but
the price just went up! -That’s funny! Start with the
hook, right? -Start with the hook
facing towards the rod tip. They make the eyes on
these smaller every year. You put that on
facing the rod tip. Then I go ahead and put
my drop shot weight on. Pull that up in there. And I always tie a
granny knot on it. I know a lot of people
don’t, but I just do that. Keeps it from
accidentally falling off. Now, I take my hook.. and I go about
the distance- and I just guess at it-
that I want to be from the drop shot weight, and
I just pinch the line together. Doubling it up. Go around my fingers,
creating a loop, and I go through that
loop once.. Twice.. Three times. And this is the same
thing Casey and I do, bass fishing. -Wow. -I wet it.. I draw it up.. And like I say, I know that people are
skeptical about that breaking, but we have
landed a flat head over 15 pounds on this. Then I take and put.. a plastic bait on. In this case, a little
inch and a half Bass Pro tube jig. And I run that
up on there. And I’m not going
to do it now, but a lot of times I
just put just a drop of superglue to
keep that there. Then I put a
little bit of uh, MegaStrike scent on it. -And why are you
using the scent? -Just a extra uh, initiative
for them to hit it. -Alright. -And I always run it
up my line little bit. Now I take a- a live
minnow out of the minnow bucket over here. And I take and hook them
as close to the front, up through the bottom
lip, and out the top lip. And that is your.. -That’s my drop shot rig. -That’s your dropshot rig. -That’s what I’m throwing
for my drop shot rig. -That’s right. -That’s what I’m
talking about son! Look at that thing!
Hi little dude! Got him! -Alright. -Got that one. I got that one, Art! -Hope you got the
right species. Nope.. Oh! I do! I do! -Yes you do.
-I do! -Swing him up in here. [Johnny cackling] -Lookee there! Little paper-mouth! -Yes sir! -I think we found a-
a good little spot. -I think so. -Look at that! Huh folks? Now that’s not
a giant crappie, compared to what-
compared to what we’re uh, what we’re getting- what
you see in this lake, but that is a crappie. -That’s right. -You know, Art, can you
explain a little bit about.. I know folks at
home are wondering, “Okay, what are they using..
What’s the line?” I’m throwing braid. I’m throwing my
drop shot rig. Explain to them
what we’re doing, and the rod you’re using. -I’ve got the jig
rod at the moment. It’s a- it’s an 8’2″ rod. But on both my drop
shot and my uh, jig rod, I start out with a um,
medium light action rod. -Okay. That’s what
I’ve got here. -And uh, I use a
fairly small real. -That’s a 200? -Yeah. This is a uh,
different brand, but it’s- yeah.. A 200.
Small real. I do use pretty much the
same line as I use for bass, as far as
my main line. -For your braid. -12 pound braid. -Okay. -And I like the high-vis. -Alright. -I can detect strikes
a little bit better. -You can see it. -And then, I tie- with a
knot I saw on the Johnny Johnson show- that fellow
that he- the refined uh, Alberto. -Yep. That Alberto knot? -That is so slick. -I know. -I taped that and watched
it about 12 times. -Did you? -And then I use a
fluorocarbon leader. Right here, I’ve got 5
pound test fluorocarbon. And then on the jig rod, I
tie a little loop knot so that when the jig
is down there, uh, it will sit natural
instead of up and down. And then we uh, kinda
showed already, didn’t we? How we rigged
and tied the uh.. -Yes, uh-huh. We
already showed that. -Yeah, so.. And uh, I
usually put that about 15 inches above. That way, if I break
a weight or two off, I can put another
weight on. And that 1214 Eagle
Claw extralight hook, a lot of times you
can catch in a tree or habitat, straighten
it back out, put your minnow
on and go again. -Gotcha.. Gotcha. -That’s pretty much it. -Awesome rig..
Awesome rig. And you know, something we
were talking about earlier when we came out here:
fishing’s not quite what we were hoping for.
-No. -It’s not like, you know,
one fish after another. But you were talking
a little bit about the barometric pressure. I think if a lot of people
at home don’t understand that.. Can you explain
a little bit about the barometric pressure
on these fish? -Well, yeah. Barometric pressure,
as I understand it, and what my theory I’ve
learned from Bill Dance many, many years ago:
that a rapidly rising or a rapidly falling barometric
pressure will make the crappie, in particular,
-all fish somewhat- but it’ll make a crappie feel
like we do when we have the flu. -Wow. -Now, we’re going to eat
a little soup or something when we have the flu, but
we’re not going to eat a big meal.
-No. -So we’ve got to
be very precise, and put our baits right
in front of their nose and hope that they’ll eat it. On a good day, when
things are right, sometimes you can’t
keep them off of it. So uh.. -Gotcha.. Gotcha. Well, it’s your turn! -Okay, thank you. -You let me
catch two fish. Boy, he’s been
gracious to me today. Allowing me to catch the
first couple of fish, but it’s his turn now. -I even dumped my… Get your own minnow, or? -Yeah, I’ll get it. I feel comfortable throwing
this dropshot rig. That’s probably
a lot of it. I was throwing a jig for
a little while and I know, you know, that thing
catches a lot of fish. But when you said,
“Hey, I’ll put you on a dropshot”, I’m like,
“Hey, now you’re in my wheelhouse”. -Um, lift that net over here
and hand me a minnow also. -Alright. -Whatever it was down
there, got my minnow. -See? There you go. -I just got bit again. -You do it too much, I
might have to go to my drop shot. -You better go to
that drop shot! -Look at the fish on
the screen right now. -I know.. We lit them up
right there, didn’t we? -Yep. -Oh.. There’s another-
that one’s a little bit bigger than that last one!
-Yep. -That one’s a little bit
bigger than the last one.. Look at that! Alright! Alright, Art! -Good job, Johnny. -Little sac-a-lait! -Yep. -Look at that. They’re fun to catch. Your- kids would have
a blast doing this, wouldn’t they?
-Oh, they would. -And you know what’s
really cool about what Art’s showing
us today, folks? We’ll let him go. Is.. You can bring, you
know, or- or folks out, and you don’t have to
worry about them throwing those big ol’ crankbaits
with- with uh, treble hooks, and getting
hooked up and all that. This kind of- this kind
of fishing’s a lot of fun. -Open the bail
and drop it down. -Open the bail
and drop it down. Now the ticket is, though,
you gotta learn how to read a graph a little bit. Because you find these
habitats in here, or an edge where
they’re at, you gotta be able
to know that, ‘hey, there’s fish down
there’, and do that. But I’ll tell you, other
than that, it- you know, that part of it.. Once
you figure that part of it out, it’s a lot of fun.
It really is. And we’re fishing
in what.. 20, 27 foot of water, so. -And you know, I know
we practice catch and release, and I
think people should, but to take a few of these
home and.. For a fish dinner.. mmm. -Oh.. There you go. -Tremendous eating. There’s one!
-Did you get him? That one a better one? -I don’t know..
Oh.. He come off! Dog gone it!
-Are you serious? -Sure did. -They’re down there, huh?
-Got my minnow. -Do you need
another minnow? -I had him halfway up..
Yeah, if you don’t mind. -Here, take this one. There you go. Got him? -Got him. -I’ll help you out
the best I can. -Somebody has to. [laughing] -You get him?
-Yeah. -Alright, he got him! Boy, look at that-
look at that rod bow! And there you have it! Oh that’s- that’s bigger
than the one I caught! -Well, of course! -What do you think..
You’re the crappie master or something?
-No. -That is fun. That’s a nice one. These are black crappie? -All black crappie. Uh, we do have black-nose
crappie in this lake now. -Really? -Yep.. I’m gonna need your
pliers for this one, Johnny. -Here you go.
-He did eat it. -Look at that.
Good job, Art. -Thank you. That was
no minnow, either. -Now that was on the
jig.. Show that jig. Um, that’s got a
little blue to it. -Yeah, this is a
little teardrop uh, jig uh.. Kurt Rambo come
up with this outfit right here, and he’s the master
of this jigging technique. And uh, it’s about 3/16
of an inch- of an ounce I should say- and that Lit’l
Fishie on there is uh- Creme Lures makes that-
and that’s been a real standby out here
lately for crappie. -Let me get you
a new minnow. [up-tempo guitar music] You know, a lot of
it’s about timing. Right? I mean.. You say- you didn’t
want us to come out here until
after 7 o’clock. -Right. -Most guys would be up at
5 o’clock in the morning to be out here. -Yeah, I’ve been out
here at first light, but they’re just not
biting until later on in the morning. I think they like to
sleep in as much as we do. But um, you know, one
thing I mentioned, Johnny.. Um, is the fact
that if you walk into Bass Pro shop and walk straight
back towards the fishing department and look at
that fish tank- that aquarium-, they’ve got,
in the middle of that, just a little
bit off-center, they’ve got a nice tree
in there and six or seven crappie. I’m not sure
exactly how many. When I walk in the store,
that’s the first place I go. And I look at that, and if
those crappie are buried down in that tree,
they’re not catchable. So if you walk in there,
and if they’re up around that tree- the
perimeter of that tree, then you can catch every
one of those crappie. -Okay. -And uh, that’s exactly
what they do out here. They bury in the habitat
or the structure when they’re off their feed,
and they come up and move around that habitat
on the tops, or structure that
you’re fishing, when they’re active. -Gotcha. -And that’s part of
your ‘timing’ situation.You want to take a kid
fishing and have a blast,
this is the kind
of fishing to do.
This is a lot of fun. And uh, I’ll
tell you what, Art’s- Art’s been fishing
this lake since what.. You say the early 70s? -Uh, ’76.. January, ’76. -Mid-70s. And he knows this lake
like the back of his hand. Now, in saying that, what
makes Art so great on this lake is the fact that
whether this lake is empty, or whether it’s
full, just like this, he knows where
to find the fish. He knows exactly
where they go. And that’s the ticket. Look at that! That was bigger
than my last one. -Johnny, why don’t you
point them out for the people on the screen, what
we’re- what we’re doing here. -Yeah, if you take a quick
little poke here.. Little look.. What we have
down there, is there’s some
habitat down there. Okay, you have the bottom-
right down there’s some habitat. But in that habitat-
it’s lay-down. It’s hard to see- the
trolling motor’s going back and forth- but
every once in a while, you’ll see a hump-up. There’s some trees and
things down in that area, but all those
fish are in there. Now if I want to, I can
take- we zoom up on it- one time zoom
on this thing, and that way all of these
fish that are not stuck to the bottom like that… All that’s fish
down in there. We’re staying
in one place, so it’s not going to show
all the arcs all the time unless they’re
swimming through. But they’re just laying
on the bottom in there, in the trees and the
habitat that’s down there. And we’re just kinda- you
can feel it pulling up over the branches, and
over the- the habitat. And usually, they’re
right on top of it. Or they’re in it,
coming out of it. -Right. -So it’s a lot of fun. [laid-back guitar music] Well, Art, I think we had a great
time today on the show. -I know we had
a good time. -That’s right. I always have a good time. But the thing is, is today
was a special treat for me because I always wanted
to go fishing with you. I appreciate you coming
out here and sharing the boat with us, man. -Well I appreciate
you asking me. -I’ll tell you what.. Grab
some of these rigs and uh, try them out. And if you have any
questions for Art, you know, I guess you
could email me and we’ll find a way to uh, to have
them get a hold of you or something. But I know that
you do seminars. You’re going to be to
doing the Sportsman’s Expo- for how many
years in a row now? -Uh, it’ll be 19 in March. -19- 19 in March. And I’ll be
there, probably. But Uh, you learn a lot. I’ve learned more in the
day that I’ve had- the half of day that I’ve had
with Art- about crappie and- and the way to go
about catching these fish, than I’ve ever
done before. I usually catch
them by accident. So, you know, it’s hard to
say I’m a big-time crappie fisherman. But uh, man, I’ve learned
a lot from you today, I’m going to take to the
bank, without a doubt. -Well I appreciate that. You know they can watch
uh, in early December, we’re planning on one
at Bass Pro Shop on- -There you go.. Yeah.
-On crappie, so uh… -Yeah, we’ll get
that done, too. And make sure you stop
by and say hi to Art, for sure, because you’ll
learn a lot from him. And uh, I appreciate
you coming on. It’s been a dream of mine
to be able to have you on. Like I said, it’s
been a great day. Had fun catching
some crappie. Different day
for me, for sure, but get to go out with a
legend like this just made my day. I appreciate it buddy.
-Thank you. -Casey told me
to tell you that! Thanks so much folks! We’ll see you next week! For Art Chamberlin,
I’m Johnny Johnson. We’ll see you next week on
Fishing with Johnny Johnson. -Good fishing.

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