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Fishing with Johnny Johnson – with Matt Shura – Day & Night


– Hey, there. – [inaudible]
– There’s a fish. – Did you get a good one?
– Yep, that’s a good fish. – All right.
Get him in here, Matty. – Oh, man, he’s pulling.
– A little Apache Lake bass. – This one’s pulling. – He’s coming up.
He’s coming up. He’s coming up.
He’s coming up. – With that light wire–ohh. – Oh, yeah. All right, son.
That’s what I’m talking– what a way to start the day
right here. – Man.
– Apache Lake bass, baby. – Got that light wire spinner,
but you don’t want to pull him too hard,
you know? – Come on, baby.
– Whoo. – Nice.
– Yeah. – Nice.
What a way to start, huh? – Oh, he’s pulling.
I’m telling you, he’s pulling. – Goodness. Come on.
Good job. I just– – I’m gonna need some help with
this one, I think. – I just had one–pop it.
– Man. – Slow-rolling.
That big spinnerbait, man. – Slow-rolling.
– Golly. – Slow as you can roll it.
Oh, man. – This is crazy. This is crazy. Oh.
– Oh, that’s a good fish. – Oh, oh, that’s a good fish
right there. – All right, need your help. – All right, here we go. Come on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got him.
– [laughs] – Look at that. Whoo.
– Look at my spinnerbait – That’s what I’m talking about,
son. – Straightened my spinnerbait.
Look at that. [laughter] – Look at that, folks. Look at that fish. There you go, Matt. Oh, my goodness. Now, that is a slow–
what do you call it? A bottom-bouncer
spinnerbait bass. – Golly. Look at that fish,
how healthy it is. – Apache
Lake. – Man, love that. – Oh, man. That’s awesome. – You know what?
It just loaded up too. I was just barely feeling the
blades turn on the spinnerbait. And it just got heavy.
Let’s let him go. That’s–that’s solid.
That’s solid fish. – Here’s the deal, folks–
that’s awesome. Great job, Matt.
Here’s the deal, folks. You know, for years we’ve always
thought of spinnerbaits and things like that, you know,
on these lakes or whatever you throw
a little bit of wind. We got a little bit of breeze. But we’ve always throwed those
1/4 ounce, 3/8 ounce, 1/2 ounce baits up on the bank. Sure, you can slow-roll it.
You can bring it in fast. You can do different tecwithues
it. But we’re here pre-fishing for
an ABA–American Bass– team tournament, which we owe
one to Yamamoto. He beat us by 2/10 of a pound
for the boat last year, so we’re trying
to get back to Mead. – 3/10.
– Oh, 3/10, yeah. So anyways, but here’s a new
technique for you with that spinnerbait, slow-rolling it out in deeper
water on the ledges, and hit–bumping rock with it
with a big 1-ounce spinnerbait. What do you think of that, huh? – Yeah, this is a big 1-ounce
spinnerbait. This is a 4 and 4 1/2 ounce–
or 4 and 4 1/2 blade. They’re a little bit smaller
blades, so, you know, with the 1-ounce head,
it goes down deeper, and I’m fishing it in 15 to 20
foot of water, you know, fishing it real deep, and just
really slow-rolling it on the bottom, and that fish
just loaded up. I was–I was just barely feeling
the blades turning,and all of a sudden, it got
heavy, and I reeled up,
and there was a fish on it, and
that–you know, shoot,
that was almost a 4-pounder,
you know?
– That’s a a beautiful fish,
beautiful fish.
And I’ll tell you right now,
that’s–when that thing
came out of the water, it was
gorgeous.
But explain to the folks what
size line we’re using for this. – Yeah, you know what? This is 17-pound
fluorocarbon line. I like the fluorocarbon, because
it’s, you know, less stretchy. You really feel the blades turn. And that’s the key to fishing
the spinnerbait, is feeling those blades turn. You know, you’re just barely
slow-rolling it, ticking the bottom, you know, feeling
a rock, feeling whatever’s down there, and, you know, this is a
1-ounce spinnerbait. Just a, you know, pearl.
This is a pearl white skirt. – Sure.
– You know, if the water’s a little more clear, just pearl
and white. If it’s muddy, you know, go to
the chartreuse or chartreuse and white, but I keep it real
simple with the spinnerbaits. But the key to this spinnerbait
in my opinion is light wire, and you saw when I caught that
fish, the wire was straightened out, but it’s real light wire,
so as these blades turn, you know, it really puts out
a lot of vibration. You can really slow-roll it and
really have a, you know, a lot of vibration, and you can
really feel it on, you know, the end of your rod
when you’re reeling, you know, that vibration
with those blades turning, so any little bit of
difference– – And, of course, what saying
is, you make sure you don’t buy one. When you go to the store,
you buy, like, five, you know, ’cause– – Yeah, especially with the
light wire. What size
rod? –
Yes. We’re using–I’m using a
medium-heavy. – Yeah.
– Yeah, medium-heavy rod. – Yep, I’ve got a 7 1/2 foot
medium-heavy rod, 17-pound line, and this is a
1-ounce spinnerbait with double willow leaf blades,
and that’s just slow-rolling it. – And that’s what we’re doing
right there. – You want to reel it as slow as
you can to where you feel the blades turning, right? – That’s right, yeah.
– You know, as long as you can feel the blades turning,
you’re reeling it right. – Now, how does this feel for
you versus when you caught that–of course, there’s nothing
like catching that state-record bass, but he caught–he had the
state-record bass on a spinnerbait, so this is one
of Matt’s loves, is to throw that spinnerbait, so
anytime he picks it up, he feel pretty much at home, righ
t? I mean, you love that
spinnerbait. – Oh, exactly, and that’s the
way I caught that 16-pound largemouth at Canyon Lake
back in 1991, you know, just slow-rolling a
spinnerbait, but that spinnerbait had a willow leaf
and a Colorado blade. The Colorado blades are round. They put a little bit more
vibration.But with the clear water we
have in Arizona,
the double willow, it’s just an
awesome combination.
m
– Well, let’s get back to it,an
. I’m ready to go after it.
I want my bite. I had a little bite just before
you had that one, and I’m like, “Oh, they are.
They’re right there.” But you really got to be–have
patience with this. We’ll throw it out there,
slow-roll it, and see what we can’t get. – Got him. – Yeah.
Oh, that’s a fish. [giggling] Easy does it, baby. That’s a good fish.
– He was there. Need some help?
– I just don’t want him jumping. I don’t know how big he is.
Ahh, he’s not that big. But I got him. He’s still a good fish. [giggling] A little spinnerbait bass. Oh, that’s a good one. – Need some help? I’ll lift him for you. – [grunts and laughs] With that light wire, you just
do not want to muscle ’em too much once you get ’em out.
– Oh, that’s a good fish. – Oh, that’s a real good fish,
dude. – Ohh. [laughs]
– Yeah! That’s what I’m talking about. [giggling] Slow-rolling that spinnerbait. Look at that, folks. All right. It just gets real spongy on
you. You set the hook, and there it
is. – Yeah, just heavy all of a
sudden, you know. That’s the way the last one bit.
– Look at that. Look how fat that fish is. You don’t think they’re eating
good? Look at that, huh? Spinnerbait bass. Deep-water spinnerbait bass. – Yeah, this fish are coming
anywhere from, what, 15 to 20 foot? – Yes.
– You know, just letting– you know, letting that line sink
down and just slow-rolling it just–just so you’d feel the
blades turning. – Yeah.
– You know? – You know, so many people throw
blades right on the bank. We’re out here finding the
little cuts and drop-offs and things like that, and man, getting ready for the night
tournament. It starts about the time
we got out here, 6:00. – 6:00 to 1:00, yeah.
– 6:00 to 1:00. – 6:00 to 1:00 in the morning. – You might have a treat
tonight. We brought some lights. We might have to–to show you a
little night fishing tonight if we can get away with it. We’ll see how well it goes, but
boy, wouldn’t that be fun, huh? – I hope–I hope so. – Hopefully, we can get on some
fish this evening too, but– – You know, and that’s what
happened last week. There was a tournament up here. 27 pounds won it for 5 fish,
you know, so if you think about, you know, 5-pound average,
6-pound average, I mean– – 16 weights at over 20 pounds
last week for 5 fish. That’s a 4-pound average. That’s awesome. We want a piece of that action.– Apache Lake’s got–you know,
has some quality,
quality fish in it.
– Oh, it’s unbelievable.
But we did a tournament–we did
tournaments here, what,
night tournaments a couple of
years ago, Matt and I did, and we won, like, two of them. It was fun. But it was definitely different
fishing then than it is now.
It’s–we’ll see what happens. Hopefully, we can catch ’em.
But that was a nice bite. – You know, yeah, we had 20, 22
pounds, but those fish have grown up
over the last couple years, and I think all those 4-pounders
we were catching are now 5- and 6-pounders,
you know? – Oh, man.
– The fish are healthy here you know, healthy. – You know, a lot of it, what
I’m doing–and I think Matt’s doing the same thing; I’m
watching him, but when you let that bait fall, right as you
start to reel, you want to pop your rod tip to
get those blades started, and then look at him. Look how slow he’s rolling the
reel. – My blades–my blades are
turning right now. I can feel the blades vibrating,
and that’s how fast I’m turning. I’ve got a 6.4:1 gear ratio
reel, and that’s all it takes, and I’m
ticking the bottom. I’m deflecting off, you know,
the bottom and hitting the rocks. It makes noise. It gives an erratic movement. And that seems to be what
triggers the fish to bite, you know, just making that
contact with whatever’s down there, whether
it’s brush, rocks, boulders, you know,
the bottom, sand, you know, whatever’s down there. If you make that contact–and
all you’ve got to do is just reel that fast to get those
blades turning, you know. – Well, we’ll see what kind of
weight we can produce tonight, but it’s really got to happen
tomorrow night, but… – [laughs]
Hopefully you don’t– don’t sting ’em too bad. – Yeah, no kidding. We’ll figure out a few little
things that work for us real good tonight, and then
hopefully we’ll see what happens tomorrow night for
sure. – Yeah.[twangy music]– There’s one. There’s one.
There’s one. There’s a night fish. – Decent? – Ehh, it’s hard to tell
right now. He ain’t swimming very hard. Oh.
[laughs] Let’s get him in the boat and
find out what he looks like. [laughter] With all that light. A little crankbait bass. He’s not a giant by no means,
folks, but he’s a fish, right in the middle of that
channel. There you go. Well, we go stuck night fishing,
didn’t we, Matt? – Yep.
– [laughs] Well, we came out to try to see
what we could do anyways. Right now, we’re throwing some
cranks. And it hasn’t been as good as
what folks have been telling us, at least not yet, huh? – Not yet.
Yeah, last week, that TBF tournament, shoot,
there was a 27-pound bag weighed for 5 fish, and, you know,
shoot, guys with 20 pounds didn’t even cash a check. It was just amazing, you know… – Unbelievable. – The fish that are coming out
of Apache are just giants, you know, and healthy. We’re trying to figure it out
for tomorrow night. – Well, yeah, we’re throwing,
you know, 6XD crankbaits trying to get ’em down there
where we can really feel the bottom. And you need to be bumping rock. I was bumping rock,
by the way… – Yeah, same here.
– And we’re grinding down a little bit. What are you throwing,
that sexy shad? – Yep, sexy shad, and, you know,
I’ve get a lot of questions on, you know, people asking me what
to throw at night and where to fish at night,
and I’ll tell you, you know, I fish the same areas
at night that I fish during the day. You know, the areas that you
fish during the day that you found fish on, they
have fish on ’em at night too. Just fish the same areas. Just–a lot of times, just slow
down, you know. – That’s exactly right.
– Slow down. You know, I really like to throw
power worms, you know, that kind of thing, something
with some scent on ’em and, you know, fish ’em slow and
just concentrate on those areas, you know. – There’s one right–right
there, right there, Matty. You just broke off. – What?
– You just broke off. both: Ooh. – Oh, that’s a good one, dude.
– I got you. – That’s a good one. I heard the splash. – Ohh.
– Oh, yeah. – That’s a nice fish. Take your time. – Can you get it?
– Yeah. – [giggling] Ohh.
Oh, that’s a nice one, dude. – Fatty.
– [laughs] – Got him.
– Yeah. That’s what I’m talking about. A little night fishing Apache
Lake bass. Look at that. All right, son. – Nice fish. – Look at that, folks, how big. Ohh.
– 4-pounder? – Wow, look how thick that fish
is right there. Wow, that’s what we come here
for at night right there, man. Those are the kind of fish you
want to catch. Beautiful fish, huh, Matt?
– Healthy. Man. – You just broke off that rock,
and I’m like, “Man.” – I know.
– “Did I feel something tick or what?” – Nice fish.
– Wow. We’ll let it go. Well, what did we have to do? – Slow down.
– [laughs] – We tried the crankbaits. We’d started out with
spinnerbaits and ended up slowing down and– – Going to a big worm. – 10-inch power worm.
– That 10-inch power worm again. Can you believe that? I mean… – It’s one of my favorite baits. You know, it–you know, Green
Pumpkin, Watermelon Candy, you know, the Blue Flake, you
know, any of the– – Feel that.
– Any of the darker colors at night. [laughter] – Were we lucky or what?
[laughs] – Yeah, any of the darker colors
at night, you know, with the silhouette, it gives–
you know, it has the scent to it. I mean, they’re hard to beat,
the chigger craws, power worms. You know, the 7- and 10-inch
power worms are just, you know, a staple out here in
Arizona, you know, fishing at night.
– Yeah. – Westy worms too if you still
have some or… – Want to use a–
– Can get a hold of some. – Want to use a heavy rod with
this, obviously, and some 17-pound test line, 1/2
ounce bullet weight. I got a little bead on there,
you know. I don’t know.
We’ve kind of gone off and on with the bead here and there,
but my line is really frayed. And you bring it across those
rocks like that, that’s the key. You know, if you know they’re
eating crawdads and stuff at night, you’ve got to find those
little rock piles and be bringing it across the
rock, and man, you’ll start catching ’em, huh? – And I like the bead too,
’cause, you know, you’re pulling over a rock, and
it sits, and you can shake it a little bit and make that
clicking sound and– – They’re jumping behind us.
– Yeah, I know. [laughter] – All right, well–
– You know, yeah, you make that noise, and those
fish are curious. They’re gonna come check it out,
you know, when you make that clicking sound like the
crawdads along the rocks or that kind of thing. It makes a little click to it,
and I think it helps for sure. – Hey, folks, for my tip of the
week, you know, when you’re night fishing, I
know a lot of people get afraid to go out at night, especially
if you don’t go out that often, because you’re worried about
your navigation. Well, you know, with today’s
graphs,and you get the mapping system,you can actually get out early
before it gets dark
and make some trails.You can see these little black
lines down here. These are trails that we made, and you can follow these
trails, and it’ll keep you off the sides or the edges, and
making sure you’ve got a good spotlight–you know, you want to
make sure that you don’t totally rely on that, but the
trails will help you with the GPS and the navigation
there, but also having a good
spotlight, because you don’t know if somebody don’t have
their lights on on their boat or if something’s going on. It’s always good to just kind
of, you know, flash that spotlight once and a while just
to–just to be sure that, you know, you can see the bank. Oh, that’s a good fish. [giggling] – All right. Got him.
– Yeah. Yeah. That’s what I’m talking about,
folks. [giggling] – Nice fish.
– Thanks, Matt. Oh, my goodness. How did I–look at that fish. Now, that’s what we’re talking
about. That’s some Apache Lake bass
right there, baby. Look at that. Matt, what do you think?
– Awesome. Nice fish, man. – Man, I’m telling you, big worm
bass right there. We’ve got to throw at this point
one more time. Dude, there’s some–I got bit
twice in there and finally caught him. Let’s let him go,
catch us another fish. – Tell me that’s a big fish. [giggling]
– Got him. – You got him?
– Got him. – Ooh, come on, Matt. – Two on that same point. [laughter] – That’s what–that’s what
happens right there. – Ohh…
– Finding them… – Good fish too.
– Finding them. He’s pulling it, man. Oh, Matt, that’s a good one. I just saw it flash. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, get him… [grunts] I can’t see him.
There he is. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. – [laughs] – [giggling]
Look at that, dude. – Another good one.
Another good one. – That’s what I’m talking about. That’s right. You find an area like that where
you find a point that’s just– it’s got that chunk rock on it,
and that’s a thin point, but man–
– Another good fish.[mellow instrumental music]– Well, I’ll tell you what, it’s
the next day after the tournament. Last night, we had basically an
all-nighter for us with the ABA tournament at Apache Lake.
– Yep. – We practiced for it during
this show, and I’ll tell you what, it was a tough night, but
we ended up in sixth place. We almost made a check. – I know, 8/100th of a pound
away from a– the fifth-place check. We ended up sixth place, and you
know what? We had four nice fish, though,
you know? – We did.
– We had four fish for 15 1/2 pounds,
something like that,and quality fish.Our big fish was 5 pounds,
so…
– That was a good fish.
You caught that fish. That was a good fish– – Well, that wasn’t
our biggest fish. – No, that wasn’t
our biggest fish. We thought we had
the tournament won. Two things happened to us
on this night. We–Matt lost a nice 2, 2 1/2
pound smallmouth bass. Just came out of the water,
came unbuttoned. – Yeah, right off the bat.
– And then–and then I set the hook on a fish of a lifetime,
folks, but unfortunately, it was the wrong species.– Giant fish.– Huge, had to be 40- or
50-pound catfish.
– Guarantee it was 40 or 50
pounds.
– Unbelievable when I set into
that thing, but we tried hard, and we had a great time, and
I’ll tell you what, Apache Lake wasn’t likelastwas
week. – Man, what a difference
a week makes. You know, a lot of people were
talking about catching 50 fish last week, and we go out
and had 5 fish on, and we talked to the winners. Creston Carroll and Laron Porter
had 22 pounds with a 7-pounder kicker. Their big fish was 7 pounds.
– Yep. – And they said that; I think
they only caught seven fish all night, so it just was a tougher
night, you know, and these fish are like that, you know.
We talk about it all the time. It’s just sometimes, you know,
just one week difference makes– you know, what
a difference it makes. – Yeah, and we made the same run
that we made doing the show, but our next stop is cleaning
the boats up, getting our rigs ready, and
we’re heading to the U.S. Open.So we’ll see what happens
there.
I wish you the best.
Thank you so much, Matt.
– Thank you, Johnny.
– And we’ll go over there, and hopefully one of us will win
that U.S. Open. – Let’s do it.
– Until next week, I’m Johnny Johnson. Yeah! Yeah! All right. – U.S. Open 2016 champion,
Johnny Johnson, and… – That’s what I’m talking about,
son. – And a Nitro Mercury boat.

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